Originally Posted by
Squeezebox
But I really have no clue about 4130 tubing. Sure it's better than gas pipe. But many low end bicycles use 4130.
Actually, many low end bikes use high tensile steel, which is just one small step above gas pipe. Every Walmart/Magna/Huffy probably ever made is hi-tensile because the materials cost is much lower. If a bike uses 4130, it will often be labeled as such.