Originally Posted by
alan s
I'll go to the front of the line and move as far forward and to the right side of the left turn lane as safely possible. When the light turns green or even slightly before if there is no cross traffic, I'll slowly pedal and let all the turning cars pass so I don't need to deal with them again. Oncoming turning traffic seems to get the message, as do the cars turning with me.
If you are going to move to the front of the line and then let all the turning cars pass, why go to the front of the line? You still end up waiting for the cars to get around you and all you manage to do in the mean time is confuse people.
Originally Posted by
alan s
Going to the front is following the same rules. They pass you, you pass them. No rule says passing a car or bike in the same lane as you is wrong. Why wait behind cars if they are stopped? Seems pointless.
But according to your post, you
are waiting for the cars. You are just waiting in front of them.
Originally Posted by
kickstart
Because leapfrog is a silly game to play, and a waste of effort.
Exactly. The cars are going to pass you once they get past the light and, in the description above, the cars are passing alan s anyway while he's in the intersection. By getting in the lane behind the last car in line, I can control the cars behind me when I start to cross the intersection. No one is having to swing inward around me nor am I standing still beside a moving line of cars if the left signal light hasn't changes or there is no left signal.
More importantly, I'm where cars can see me and expect to see me.