Originally Posted by
joeyduck
I agree and told him I always tried to hang to the left of the right most lane to help turners. I also said it's a bad way to be passing drivers and it would likely be the cyclists fault. Here sometimes it's hard to get to the right most edge when turning since there is always parked cars and then there is the natural gap getting along side them then trying to head into the right turn. Leaving an opening for cyclists to try to get by and using an Idaho stop while not being aware.
Yep, there are mindless ones among all of us, both cyclists and motorists. No matter what our choice of conveyance that day, we must always be aware of others around us. Sadly some aren't, which is when those tragedies happen.