Originally Posted by
Mobile 155
Because the defined car free movement doesn't love cycling more than it hates cars. It is political and does have an agenda. It is primarily aimed at urban dwellers with a dismissive attitude towards metropolitan and suburban dwellers. Whenever there is that kind of division there are two sides no matter what. The message is do it our way or there is a class struggle, social struggle or environmental struggle and only one side can be on the right side. Why else would sprawl be used as a bad thing? Notice the link dealt with that issue as well.
Sprawl is demonstrably a bad thing, but this is not about
you - you happen to be living car-light in a car-heavy area and good for you, so no need to take it personally. Sprawl squanders farmland, increases air pollution and shortens life expectancy due to both ill health and car crashes. This is not opinion. However the fact that I know this and you may reject it does not make us aliens to each other - I'm sure there are vastly different points of view among you and your neighbours on many topics ranging from Donald Trump to the Oscars. yet you still generally get along and have interests in common.
And although this is overall a cycling forum, this particular sub-forum does not have to be totally about bikes, or the love of bikes - the forum description provides a lot of latitude around discussing other forms of transprotation and the lifestyle in general. So I really don't get the hostility to people engaging in that broader discussion. You can ignore it, you can argue for your point of view, or you can start threads that reflect your interests (which apparently includes the issues we are discussing in this thread you started).
As for common ground, at the end of the day we all have one big piece of common ground which is called Earth, and all of our fates are tied to how we share it.