YEah, i know ---- most of my road machines are getting long in the tooth though, ---- i don't want to "cross pollinate" the build kits too much by putting a current crankset on a 10yo bike ---- the OCD side of me would rather just install a complete new updated build kit than cave in to the kind of mass hysteria and manic mindset that would install late model stuff on a 10 y/o DA 7800 equipped bike -- LOL