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Old 04-09-16 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by T Stew
I've ogled those for many years! If I were to do a long trip like 5+ days or perhaps a shorter trip but with multiple people I think a carbon fiber Bearikades are the way to go. For just solo on my usual 3 day hikes the BV450 was far more economical for just a slight weight penalty. But sooner or later I'm sure I'll end up with the Weekender or Expedition or perhaps custom, the weight advantage goes up with the larger units.
Yes the weight advantage does go up with the larger sizes. In the range of the BV450 and the Scout it is something like $190 more to save 5 ounces. To me that isn't worth it. I can still fairly easily get down to a 15 pound backpacking base weight even carrying a few extras. Of course the value in dollars of those 5 ounces of weight savings is a judgement call.

As far as larger sizes go... I can go 5 days backpacking with the BV450 by carrying the first day's food outside the canister so again I have not felt the need for bigger on solo trips. I do have a bigger canister (Garcia) that goes on family trips, but it gets carried by someone younger and fitter than me. I have decided that in general I am unwilling to carry more food than that any way. Most longer trips that I would do food drops can be arranged to keep the distance between restock at or below 5 days. If I ever do decide to do a trip that the BV450 isn't adequate I'll either bite the bullet and carry my old Garcia or rent a Bearicade.

For bike tours on roads, even dirt ones, I have never carried more food than would have fit in the BV450. In fact I typically buy frequently enough that I would never even half fill it on my typical tour, since I usually buy only enough to get to the next town with a store (plus a little extra just in case). I guess there could be an exception where I might, but I have never felt the need to carry one on tour. I can see where someone might carry a canister to avoid the hassle of hanging food, but I have usually found that the places where the problem is bad enough I tend to stay in parks that have bear (or raccoon) boxes.

If I owned one I might consider taking the Ursack on some of my tours, but I have not yet decided it made sense for me. If it was accepted for backpacking in Yosemite and SEKI I would probably own one.
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