For some reason I can't get over the imaginary idea that slicks will be worse in the rain. I did look at those, though.

Cornering traction on commuting -- for what I do -- is important. I do battle with northeastern traffic with a VC mindset, and I'd rather deal with an occasional flat and/or tire replacement once a year as a sacrifice for traction and handling.

I wound up chickening out and ordering two new T&C's. A year of glass and crap in an industrial city, especially with the late winter early spring crap before picking up enough of the crap to start flatting. Seems long-wearing enough.

I also ride the 16-17 mile ride home, skipping the train, and want something that can roll out fast.

I wonder if there isn't something out there that is specifically designed with both a thin sidewall and a flat-resistant central strip. For guys like me who aren't scuffing on curbs but have to deal with a lot of glass and crap in the streets.