The problem that I have with the Showers Pass 2.1 is that it does not have pockets on the sides for you to use as hand warmers (conventional pockets) It does have a pocket in the back and a chest pocket. No hand warmers is a deal breaker for me. Another member mentioned the J&G cycle wear jacket. I own that one, and the pants as well. Comfortable, good design, great color (yellow) for visability. The pants are black. I find it lousy for touring. I took it on my cross country tour last summer, and wound up just as wet inside as outside in an hours time. Pit zips open, wrists loose, even the zipper down enough to allow some venting- I sweat bullets in the jacket. I will say that it is commuter grade, just not tour grade. The Arcteryx Beta AR is what I will buy next month when they go on sale locally, as I have an upcoming cross country hike in Spain to do in September. I saw the Frogg Toggs at Walmart last week. I was tempted for $18, but decided to stick to the plan of buying the Beta AR.