When I went back to riding, I bought a nice Trek 2300 with AL frame and Ultegra shifters. It became my rain/snow bike. Then a carbon fiber Scott SL with Kysrium SL wheels and Dura Ace gruppo - this thing was super stiff and climbed like a scalded cat. Then a Scott Addict when I broke the SL frame. Finally a Parlee Z4 with Reynolds Assault mid-dish CF rims and SRAM Force Gruppo. Also fairly stiff.