My logic is now cost related. I've had Serotta's, Rossin EL/OS, Rossin SL, Koga-Miyata Full Pro, ect. Some high end bikes, I've spend some serious money in the past. I've also bough a couple that needed major restoration which I won't do again. My two favorite rides cost me a total of $250 and were in almost NOS condition. I now look for hardly ridden mid range bikes in mint condition that I can buy for super cheap and don't have to pour money and time into and can ride into the ground. Which ends up being Japanese bikes. Exage and Light Action works just as well as Super record and Dura Ace. I've had them all. Tange 2 is as nice of a ride as SLX and I'm just as fast on my 24 pound bike as my 16 pound modern bike. I was riding my mint condition Centurion LeMans this morning and smiling knowing I bought it for a hundred bucks and could ride it across the country if I wanted to. So I may not have 200 forum members drooling over them when I post a picture, so what. I didn't blow a thousand bucks and have to order parts online from 10 different websites, either.