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Old 05-16-16 | 02:08 PM
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That article is a bunch of .... stuff. if the riders want to organize, they should. If they are unwilling to organize, that's on them.

The article assumes the wound came from a disc and that "fact" is being covered up, but doesn't explain how the wrong knee was cut, if Ventoso just brushed by a rider---the brake disc would have been on the other side. The article also doesn't mention that the second alleged disc-caused injury happened when there were no disc-brake-equipped bikes around.

Seems to me everyone i s lying and exaggerating to promote an agenda here ... and then blaming everyone else for doing it.

We all know the manufacturers are pushing discs to expand disc sales on their commercial bikes. That's understood. What is not understood, is if there is any increased risk associated with using disc brakes. Sorry, but the only way to test that is to put them on the bikes and ride.

if the riders seriously think that it would do more harm to their careers to lose a season recovering from a brake disc gash than to organize a protest ... they can do so.

I am definitely Not a Marxist, but I feel strongly about workers' rights ... to the point that I organized a successful action which got working bathrooms in a factory where I was employed ... which might well have led to my subsequent firing on a trumped up charge. But ... I took the risk because I believed in what I was doing.

If the riders in the pro peloton do not feel that strongly, or if not that many of them do ... that doesn't mean they have no rights. it is that they choose to exercise their right to work instead of their right to protest. Maybe not all of them are convinced that discs are deadly? Maybe some of them want to actually have facts in hand before risking their careers?

The riders have a huge amount of power. If they decided not to ride a stage, just one stage, of a Grand Tour for some specific reason, everyone would know about it immediately. Any action taken against those riders immediately would be noticed and reported ... and if their cause was just, it would hurt UCI a Lot.

Thing is, generally it is better to keep a clam dialogue in labor relations as in all kind of negotiations. Maybe the riders, thinking calmly, don't see a need to take strong action just yet.

Also, look at some of the reaction here. A lot of people say that discs aren't necessarily dangerous, and this is reactionary denial, people saying "Why change the old ways? They were always good enough," while we all also want progress.

You want so me conspiracy theory? Ventoso was hired by the manufacturers to make false claims about every injury which happened in the race, to Discredit the idea that discs are dangerous. They got to him.

Since this is the Internet, obviously people aren't willing to wait and see what the actual results of the next test weill be.

It should be noted that as far as anyone can tell for sure, the first test of discs cause Zero added injury. Even Ventoso said he didn't notice getting cut ... so he really doesn't know how it happened.
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