Old 05-25-16 | 12:33 PM
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Jaywalk3r
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Bikes: 29er commuter/tourer, 26er commuter/tourer, folding mixed-mode commuter

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Yes - heavy bikes that can't be taken conveniently up stairs, maintained, or ridden over much distance with one hand position (that maximizes wind resistance) have more utility
Being able to easily carry a bike adds zero utility. On the other hand, having a bike that is, by design, well suited for living outside without requiring much in the way of extra maintenance does add utility.

With an upright riding position, multiple hand positions aren't necessary, because the hands aren't supporting weight. I took my upright-ish bike on a 3200 mile tour, and despite having multiple hand positions available, spent less than 10 miles using anything but my Ergons.

Please look up the meaning of the word ironic; it doesn't mean presenting a fact pattern with conclusions that differ from yours.
Are you trying to get a second nomination for the Ironic Post of the Year Award? Something is ironic when the literal meaning is the opposite of the intended meaning. By any objective standard, Dutch style city bikes have greater utility value than nearly any other bike being made. Long distance rides, leisure trips, commutes, carrying cargo, carrying kids, they excel at all of it with extremely low maintenance requirements.
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