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Old 06-22-16 | 02:10 PM
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Bikes: 1997 Rivendell Road Standard 650b conversion (tourer), 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10 (gravel/tour), 2013 Foundry Auger disc (CX/gravel), 2016 Cannondale Fat CAAD 2 (MTB/winter), 2011 Cannondale Flash 29er Lefty (trail MTB)

Originally Posted by Metaluna
I believe the higher end hubs have mostly gone to an oversized alloy axle, and the bearings now have a larger number of smaller balls in them in order to make room (I don't know why they didn't just make the hub body and flanges slightly bigger -- maybe weight). The axle is supposed to be stronger and less prone to bending on impacts. But some posts I've read claim that having more, smaller balls increases rolling resistance slightly and possibly reduces durability under heavy loads. The lower end hubs still have the old, proven, steel threaded axle with 1/4" balls, though even then you will read claims that the lower end hubs have lower quality cups and cones, which might negate any advantage.

So if these hypotheses are true, Shimano gave with one hand (stronger axle) and took with the other (weaker bearings, more drag). I don't know which is more important. Probably a toss-up.
Also, due to the oversized axle, these Shimano MTB hubs also require a new/different freehub. This freehub can't be removed with the previously-standard 10 mm hex; a 14 mm hex is required (and hard to find).

My Deore XT FH-T780 rear hub is designed thusly. Besides being delivered with a bad freehub (which was then replaced by seller), my hub has been reliable and smooth for ~1500 miles.

I don't know where the demarcation is between oversize or standard axle size in the current Shimano lineup.
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