Originally Posted by
Grand Bois
Both the PA10 and PR10 used the same seamed fork as the U08.
Well... not exactly... All of those forks used seamed blades but U08 forks had a 60mm+ fork rake plus stamped steel fork ends. By the early 70's the PA10 and PR10 fork rakes were about 50mm plus they had Simplex forged fork ends.
They all had the same stamped steel fork crowns plus the steerers were made of of sleeved straight gage tubes rather than a butted steerer.
Originally Posted by
Grand Bois
I think they used Bocama lugs exclusively on the PA10. That bike does not appear to have Bocama lugs. I don't see anything about it that doesn't say PR10.
In the 1960's PA10s, PR10s and PX10s came with Nervex Pro lugs which after ~1967 were usually painted black.
ARGH! Can't post photos yet!
Original 1967 PA10 with Nervex Professional lugs:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rencooks/4001503475
Early 70's PA10 with somewhat fancy Bocama lugs:
http://forum.tontonvelo.com/download...5374&mode=view
Mid 70's PA10 frame with the same Bocama lugs. This frame is mislabeled as a PR10:
Vintage Peugeot PA10 Frame and Fork 55cm - Santucci Cycles
Originally Posted by
Grand Bois
They moved the Reynolds sticker to the down tube in 1974. I have a 1974 PX10LE that I bought new in North America to prove it.
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francophile too
By the mid 70's many bike shops used work stands that gripped the seat tube. Working on bikes frequently caused bikes to twist in the stands which damaged or destroyed seat tube and tubing decals. Many European bike manufacturers moved the tubing decals to the down tube.... but after a 2 litre wine or 3 pint beer lunch there was no telling where the workers put the stickers.
To many of those employees tubing stickers meant very little. They were trying to throw bikes together, box them up and push them out the door as quickly as possible.
So while many mid 70's and later French bikes had Reynolds decals on the down tube some still came on the seat tubes!
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francophile back before the days of desktop publishing creating catalogs and literature was an expensive proposition done by layout artists using real "cut and paste" using Xacto knives and rubber cement. Making printing plates with graphics was even more expensive.
Bike makers didn't have big budgets for advertising so the frequently used the same graphic materials for a number of years.
Add to that, shortages in components and the slew of special models for specific markets:
"les spécifications sont sujettes à modification sans préavis" Specifications subject to change without notice!
So catalogs are just a starting point or guideline!
verktyg
Chas.