that's weird because I never found an aluminum, scandium (which I had one but the head tube cracked after about 10,000 miles and they wouldn't cover it saying it was fatigue!), or a CF bike that I ever liked!

Of course I got the new generation of TI bikes that don't have that flex you talked about (it's a Lynskey Peloton) but it's the best riding bike of all my bikes I have. I tested a couple of friends TI bikes including the first version of the Motobecane with the Dura Ace package, and a very expensive Serotta (about $7,000 in 2002) with the Campy Record package, the Serotta was the most comfortable of the 3 but it was also the most flexy and didn't have that confidence feeling in turns, the Motobecane in the flex and handling department was better than the Serotta, but didn't handle or feel as lively as the Lynskey. My friend with the Moto did upgrade his fork with the same fork I have, the Enve 2.0 and used the same headset I have which is the Cane Creek 110 and got to finally ride it again and the fork did make a measurable improvement in the handling. Overall for the price the Motobecane is the best deal for a Ti bike, sure you could spend a lot more money on one but you'll only gain maybe 10% but could pay at least 100% more to achieve that! And the average rider will never even notice or have a want for a better ti bike than the Moto.