Originally Posted by
rms13
This is some real nonsense. If you ride on the hoods you will be much faster with Chorus then with 105??? what???
You will get pushed by bike shops to get Shimano because there are no bikes that they sell that come with Campy. Which model Supersix EVO comes with Campy? Oh yeah, none.
There is nothing wrong with Campy but it's apples to oranges. OP is considering 105 vs Ultegra. And even there 105 is not a HUGE step down from Ultegra as you state. Have you ridden both? 105 is a step down from Ultegra that no cyclist can even notice while they are riding the bike and if they say they can they are lying to make themselves feel better about spending extra money. The difference is weight and color and nothing more
You don't understand. The hoods on Shimano especially the 105 are very uncomfortable. That is what I meant. The OP would know right away. I have ridden both extensively and there is no comparison in terms of long-term reliability. Campy all the way.
Here is the deal. 105 can be had for the whole groupset for $379 and that is what you get, a $379 dollar package. Shifting under load with 105 is not for the faint of heart and the levers feel really cheap.
Campy is not an OE company and yes they are more expensive but I have always thought the groupset should get the most of the budget and not the frame. Frame is a frame in most cases.