While that is why I started this thread and shared my concerns with the members here, as you can see.... not all agree.

You raise some points worth looking into because I do not want that to happen again. Just remember what I have posted so far...... all the pre-ride coffee, going out fasted, etc is part of my normal routine and has nver been an issue for me since I've started cycling 11 months ago.

So I am looking for something unusual but it looks to me like neuromuscular fatigue more than hydration or electrolyte but quite possibly all of the above. Thought maybe others here had similar situations and a way of dealing with it.

Good reading for sure, except for trailangel's angry post. Maybe he is having cramps, the monthly kind?