Originally Posted by Mulberry20

If your budget is that high contact Mike DeSalvo in Oregon or Kelly Bedford in NY and speak to real experts about frame materials, quality and pluses and minuses. There is a guy in Cali I forget his name that has a seven year wait, so don't bother with him.

Kelly Bedford has forgotten more about frame building than most know. DeSalvo builds killer frames. I have seen several, for about $2,000. Bedford a little more.

I would never spend that kind of coin on a stock pre-built bike. I don't care what the fashion is.

Get a custom bike and put more money in the groupset, wheels, shoes and not the frame material.

You are just flushing money down the toilet overspending on materials for the frame.

Contact those guys and get a custom bike if your budget is that generous.