I think Calfee's carbon rando is beautiful and qualified - there's carbon and then there's carbon. Chinese imports is a different argument.

But I'll never be in the $10,000 bike market, never in the used carbon market.
If I'm going to buy a nice used bike, it's going to be steel. That's what I do.
and I took the tread off 5 tires in the past year.

You guys know anything about private planes? The class of people who own them are litigious - or their survivors are.
After he retired it, my friend sold his Apache for 4 times what he paid for it. It's because 75% of the price of a new plane these days is the manufacturer's liability insurance on the old planes they made.
I honestly believe we will eventually see Specialized taken down by next generation owners of used carbon bikes.