my view of climbing isn't particularly positive, I go out of my way to have some permanent routes with as little climbing as possible. As I like to say, as a climber I'm a good descender. OTOH, I also have a couple of perms that are absolutely punishing as far as climbing. Those are the ones that are interesting to a lot of people. My worst climbing route has been an obsession for a long time, it was the first 200k I thought about making.