i like my B17 pretty good. it's covered up in this photo since it looked like rain, but you can see the other seat both my son and i like on the orange bike: SERFAS TEGU: https://goo.gl/photos/dkG1q3pCMEhKQQwj9

and i'll through another vote for SELLE ANATOMICA NSX ~ I ride them all sans-chamios. https://goo.gl/photos/Y2yJMubfBBagv8cb6

~ a note on the SELLE ANATOMICA NSX : it came out of the box needing a very slight tightening of the tension bolt, and compared to the B17, it's required much more frequent tightening. But about the time I DID NOT need to tighten it, I had to start tighten the BROOKS. The S.A. also tends to flare a bit, to the point where I can feel the edge of the saddle on the inside of my thighs. A little annoying, but if I got with baggy shorts and long compression shorts, no big deal. With bike shorts, not deal at all.

cheers