I have been talking tothe man over the email....will let you know if they are willing to measure the tips.

http://commutercycling.blogspot.com/...equipment.html


so the velo orange grand cru uses japaneese bears, so I better buy at leat two dozen if I want to use this hub the rest of my life. The bigest proble is that a wide flange hub crossing 4 spoke will be a bugger.

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...g-hub-135.html