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Old 08-26-16 | 11:54 AM
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Bikes: 1997 Rivendell Road Standard 650b conversion (tourer), 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10 (gravel/tour), 2013 Foundry Auger disc (CX/gravel), 2016 Cannondale Fat CAAD 2 (MTB/winter), 2011 Cannondale Flash 29er Lefty (trail MTB)

Originally Posted by RockiesDad
I have the SRAM Apex group and trying to stay that way. SRAM doesn't make a 11-34 do they? But it looks like you went with Shimano for the 11-34 cassette? I think the 10speed spacing should be the same for both vendors?
Yep, I went with the Shimano CS-M771 cassette. It was on sale for less than the equivalent SRAM (PG-1070). I didn't even notice that SRAM doesn't make an 11-34!

I wanted 11-34 so I could have a 1:1 low gear with my 50/34 crank.

Yes, SRAM and Shimano use the same cog spacing for their cassettes. Even though Shimano calls their CX-M771 a "DynaSys" cassette, in reality there is no such thing. DynaSys uses the exact same cog spacing, just a different cable pull ratio.

Originally Posted by RockiesDad
Also, good to know you can push the SRAM medium cage up to 34T. I can at least stay with SRAM road group vs going to the mountain bike derailler.
SRAM's medium cage 10s road RDs (also called "WiFli", a dumb name) are rated to a 32t cog. Mine does fine with the 34t, but the upper pulley is really close to the cassette at that point.

Your SRAM Apex shifters are 10-speed, correct? SRAM's 10-speed MTB and Road RDs use the same cable pull ratio (Exact Actuation), so they're cross-compatible.
You could use a medium-cage SRAM 10s MTB rear derailleur instead of the mid-cage road (WiFli) RD, and that RD would fully support a 34t or even 36t big cog.
One big advantage of using a SRAM MTB RD is the clutch (aka "Type 2"). The clutch on the lower cage really helps to prevent chain slap on rough terrain (but it is a tiny bit heavier).

Unfortunately, SRAM changed the cable pull ratio for 11-speed MTB (X-Actuation), so their 11-speed MTB and Road stuff isn't cross-compatible anymore.
But, you could use a 10-speed SRAM MTB RD (Exact-Actuation) with 11-speed SRAM Road shifters (Exact-Actuation) for an 11-speed cassette.

Originally Posted by RockiesDad
$40 shipped is a great price on the XT cassette. I'd grab one (and maybe even a spare) at that price.

The HG-500 will be a bit heavier because less of its cogs are mounted to aluminum carriers (aka "spiders"). Those spiders reduce the amount of steel in the cassette (lower weight) and don't dig into alloy freehub bodies quite as badly as loose steel cogs do.

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