After all the claims by Tern of resolving the frame breakage issue, then having it occur on other bikes in their lineup, and Tern trying to SILENCE people via locking out their forums? I'll not trust them until proven otherwise. I own a Tern Joe P24, and I still worry about the frame breaking. Are my concerns/fears warranted? I hope not,... But, they're not a trustworthy company, so I'll remain cautious all the same. Updated joint or not.