OK, so here's where I am with all of it right now. I decided I wanted a GPS unit, because using my phone for that purpose, the apps have been buggy, and trying to deal with waterproofing and protecting my phone on the bars isn't that great either. Dedicated units have their advantages as has been pointed out. A dedicated multipurpose GPS unit will solve my issues with the phone in that role, and it will also cover many if not all of the functions I want from a dedicated cyclo-computer. So then it comes down to size, weight, and price. Yet at the same time I'm still considering adding a relatively inexpensive dedicated cyclo-computer alongside the GPS unit at some point. I haven't completely decided on that part of it, but I am for sure going for a dedicated GPS unit right now.

As for a reasonably inexpensive cyclo-computer, I really like the "Cateye CC-VT245W Urban Wireless+", but, since it uses the same system as the Cateye MC-200W that blacknbluebikes is having to return now, which others have held the same complaint about, then you'll have to go up to a more expensive unit using different technology. The other more expensive units I've found worth considering are the "Polar M450 GPS Bike Computer" fro about $140, the Polar "V650 GPS Bike Computer" for about $200, and the "Sigma ROX 10.0 GPS" for about $200.

So as I said, for myself right now, I'm likely going with a dedicated multipurpose GPS unit; the features are awesome. I'm pretty settled on this Garmin eTrex Touch 35, which costs around $180,

Garmin - eTrex Touch 35
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into...rod156873.html