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Old 09-22-16 | 05:01 PM
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Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Hey I'm happy to apologize and be corrected if I'm wrong; because I want to be right as much as possible. Especially about something I may have been wrong about for so many years. I just accepted it and never looked up actual numbers.

"Aluminum bikes dent easier because thin walls" was in all the bike reviews in all the magazines; where did that come from?

"Don't clamp your aluminum bike in the workstand because it'll crush the thin tubing." Wrong, or different problem?

"The tubing is so thin on <x brand> bike that you can feel it give with just thumb pressure." Baloney?


Thinnest area of tubing on my Klein is apparently 0.8 mm thick, up to 2mm at the BB joint. Conventional steel tubing ranges from 0.7 to 1.0 mm.
This is a problem of comparing apples to oranges, while forgetting that there are a number of varieties of both oranges and apples.

Gauges and diameters vary in every material, and in the case of aluminum they vary greatly. Talking about "dentability" based on coarse generalities is meaningless. In fact, even the same material in the same gauge will have varying "dentability" based on shape.

You can see this if you look at auto bodies. Any single body panel is of uniform thickness and material, but resistance to denting varies. Go to any car (preferably your own), and press on a fender or door panel where it's relatively flat and it'll yield easily. Now look for an area of greater curvature, and press with equal force and you'll note greater resistance.

If you don't have a car to play with you can do the same experiment with a hard boiled egg (or raw if you prefer) tap the blunt (flat) end and it cracks easily, but it'll take noticeably harder tapping to break the pointy end.

This is to show that dentability is a complex consideration, which depends on multiple factors, and generalization is useless.

BTW - in all fairness to those with previous mythconceptions on this subject, I should note that at identical thickness and curvature an aluminum frame will dent easier than a steel one.

The only conclusion we can accurately draw on this subject is that there are no conclusions because of the range of variables.
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