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Old 09-30-16, 10:58 AM
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DieterDrake
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
this is true.

i think without kids entering the sport, it is both tougher for older folks (parents) to stay involved and tougher for people to care moving forward.

i'm the parent of a young boy, and i've found myself saying the following a number of times when people have asked if i want him to race as i do.

aside from the fact that it is a hobby for me, i'd have a hard time putting my kid -- as a junior -- into scenarios where he is training and racing on open roads. it is one thing for me to do this as a masters athlete, where i both know and accept the risk. kids simply lack the capacity to make proper judgment calls and/or to truly grasp the risks they face, and mistakes can get one of us killed when we're up against multi-ton vehicles operated by people giving less than 100% attention.

it pains me a bit to say it. i can see why MTB and CX are growing more from this safety point of view.

i won't coach juniors and younger riders for this reason; i don't want to be responsible for sending a junior out on the open road to do VO2 intervals in traffic, esp when they might not realize they should end a 3' interval at 2:40 when they hit a stop light rather than push on through.

i don't want to pick on dieter at all here as i have loved his battenkill race (traveled across the country for it multiple times!), but i cite an incident this year as an example: even during a race event where racers are looked after, there was an unmanned intersection on the course. i'd front-flatted going down one of the dirt descents (no neutral wheels for me... sad day), and at this point i was in a car with my friend and his father, two area locals. we were following the head of a couple races, catching them at a few points. one of the intersections was either a 4-way stop or -- i think -- open in the direction of the race and stop signs crossing the course. my friend and his dad (folks who have lived in the area 30+ years) noted that locals simply ignore those stop signs.

point o all this is to say that had i not flatted and been at the front of the race as i'd hoped, i'd still use my old-guy judgment and even throw away the race at an unmanned intersection like that in the name of safety. if a 14-yo is there, s/he is more likely to blindly follow whoever is in front.

importantly, i think the junior races dieter set up are on a smaller portion of the course, and in general (aside from the lack of neutral support in my field! ) the events are VERY well organized/run. i'm merely citing this as a recent example of a situation that i've thought about that can have a bad effect on someone younger/with less discretion.

we've all been on race courses where a volunteer is asleep, or a car just decides they're going to jump on the course because, hey, they're a motor vehicle and screw the bikers. not sure i'd unleash my kid in that way, esp if he had less than world-class talent.

on a related note: i recently raced in europe. the race was 7 euros, and for that we had full support and closed roads. the race was an EVENT. it was basically all people mid-20s and younger (if you're mid-20s and you haven't made it to a pro team, you basically get on with the rest of your life) -- one field. there was real-deal traffic control (gendarmes) at every possible spot. it was super hectic and crazy due to traffic circles and road furniture, but it was very safe otherwise.

while it was a big event for the town, they shut down roads for ~3h, not all day (e.g. to run 14 different fields).

of course cycling and racing in europe is a very different culture.
Yeah, great perspective. Thanks for sharing that. It's not a major sport here on the competitive side as compared to Europe for sure, and we struggle with the basic economics of it all.

I changed the shorter junior courses to a circuit close to the start venue last year because we had drunk drivers harassing them the year before at a point where they were all strung out and where it was difficult to supervise with motos and officials fully (thankfully, we hire every available officer within 30 miles and 2 were stationed on opposite ends of the road where this genius decided to swerve and yell out the window of his truck at 12 year old kids...DWI on the spot). There is no way I'll ever go back to having young kids race on open roads with high(er) traffic.
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