Originally Posted by
tetonrider
...i happened to ask a product designer and that's never been noted by anyone they've heard. i can check when i'm there next week.
Poor comment on their support network and problem tracking. I called then, wrote then and called today. The route to problem resolution is via dealers. That is their choice.
Originally Posted by
tetonrider
my whole point was what [MENTION=125938]Ygduf[/MENTION] linked to may sound the same was what you have but is not related to the venge you had for your boy.
I got that. Likely same engineers/designers - meaning possible the same mistakes.