Give me a break. That stuff should have been done LONG before the Kickstarter campaign. Have you watched the original Kickstarter video? Let me quote it, "We're ready and excited to go." No Helix was not ready, though they may have been excited to go. Thirteen months and not a bike in sight. Well that's not true, there are the pretty pictures that are posted. Don't know if the bike works but you get photos.

Typically when you watch Kickstarter campaigns they say, we just need funds for tooling. . . The products are well past the prototype stage. Not Helix, still tweaking, still developing.

Brompton, Dahon, Tern, Origami, Downtube etc. etc. Sure it's difficult, the market is small, that doesn't give you carte blanche to take people's money and not produce something that you promised.

I want this bike to succeed. I live in the same city as this owner of this company and if he builds bikes here, its great for the economy and it gives us something to brag about. Think about the connection between Brompton and London.

I want people to get their bikes but what has been presented so far does not instill confidence in Helix. There certainly is a continuum on this subject. We have the apologists like yourself on one side and we have people like Joe on the other. I sit closer to Joe on this one, though I wouldn't call him a crook. A crook would have taken the money and walked away. Helix is actually still trying to produce one bicycle. It would make me happy to eat my words on this one, and I will be the first to say I was wrong, if anybody gets a bike before the summer of 2017.