Originally Posted by Leisesturm

My (clarified) point is that no one posting here can say that they have seen a red light scofflaw receive their comeuppance. I was specifically talking about this thread, so far, but I could pull back and take in a wider spread of A&S and Commuting forum threads over time, and for all the talk about how dangerous red light running is supposed to be I have yet to read a single eyewitness account of a fatality or serious injury because of it. OTOH there are endless first, second and third person accounts of serious injuries, and worse, of cyclists that were "following the law". Seems obvious to this writer as to how I should comport myself when among the caged ones. Banzai!!