Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 12,689
Likes: 2,094
From: Madison, WI
Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1966 Perfekt 3 Speed AB Hub, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad MkII, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, 2017 Raleigh Gran Prix, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer. Others are now gone.
My panniers when on the rack are higher than the rack. Thus, anything I put on top sits on the panniers, not on the rack. I (like Doug64 above) sometimes use the Ortlieb 31 liter waterproof duffel like he showed above and is shown in my photo. Sometimes I instead use a Carradice saddle bag, but that is not as waterpoof.