Originally Posted by
jackb
What is a good weight for a touring bike as you walk out of the shop with it? What is too heavy when completely stripped down with no equipment on it at all?
Don't worry about it.
Buy a bike you feel will carry anything you might pack on it (then double it!).
You can always save weight. Eg: a liter of water is just over 2lbs. But I wouldn't want to do that, no not at all.
Buy a bike, plan a trip or two and enjoy your selection.
Hope this helps,
-Snuts-