OK, thanks guys. I'll check those out. Here's a pic from my second ride during my injury recovery here. This was taken with my cheapo budget phone, so it's pretty grainy and such. Of course I want to be able to take pics like this without ending up such a grainy mess. That Olympus seems to make a lot of sense for the conditions encountered out in damp, cold, and even rainy weather. I suppose version 5 may be out before too long, perhaps I should just make do with my phone and an old camera I have around here somewhere until then.