Like most established retail stores, LL Bean isn't what it used to be. In general, their quality has declined to keep their prices competitive with other stores. I used to love their heavy wool pants, for example. But, in the last few years, they've become a lot less heavy. I've switched to Montana Woolen Shop for my pants in recent years. Alas, the same decline seems to have permeated LL Bean's entire line. FWIW