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Old 12-27-16 | 08:01 AM
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mr_bill
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
But they simply don't go far enough, and I prefer to place my faith in awareness and training.
Because putting a light on your bicycle obliterates your awareness and training?

See and Be Seen. It's trivial to do both. (But assume you didn't see something, and assume you aren't seen.)

Originally Posted by FBinNY
Meanwhile, I only gave you a 1/2 because I'm not convinced that right on red is more dangerous.
Episode 1: the right-turn-on-red story.

You, and many others, ESPECIALLY IN A&S, might conclude that since so many studies have the words "not statistically significant", that right on red is not significantly more dangerous. And you would be incorrect.

The most commonly cited widely available paper "proving" that RTOR is not more dangerous is Accident Experience With Right Turn on Red (1977). All the authors concluded was that the data was "not statistically significant." That's *NOT* what too many people concluded. (The other widely cited report is an AASHTO task force report from 1979 - available on paper. Also published "not statistically significant" results.)

It didn't take long for there to be sufficient data, so it was LONG ago established that pedestrians and bicyclists fare worse around drivers at RTOR intersections - The Effect of Right-Turn-On-Red on Pedestrian and Bicyclist Accidents (1981) . Oopsies.

-mr. bill

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