We have all different types in this sport. What's long for one, is short for another. People who love racing or going fast, those that love to take it slow. Although 30 miles for the average tourer is on the low end, I have read a journal or two from people that go shorter distances and 30 miles would be on the upper end. So let's put a number to it. Not going to steal this one, so look for a different thread here shortly.