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Old 01-31-17 | 05:28 PM
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Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz
Well, this may be an overgeneralization. I think we both share an interest in what matters. ....

Specifically, "Can a wheel built with a good quality triangular section rim and 32 spokes have the same strength and longevity as a wheel built with a good quality box section rim and 36 spokes?".

I'm thinking "yes", because the spoke material is at least as good as it use to be (we agree, I think) and may be significantly better (we can arm wrestle over that one), and the engineering design of the best newer rims is very strong and stiff.
My forest vs trees wasn't intended to imply either was better or worse, just different. When I manufactured tools, I had to be extremely focused on the details, but my customers didn't need to be as long as I did my job right, and they could depend on my reputation.

Back to the original question ----I think that everyone here pretty much agrees that the answer is YES, though we may use different considerations to reach hat conclusion.

If we start with the assumption that nothing has changed, we still have the fact that current builders are using more steel than we used in the past. That's the worst case scenario, and any improvements in either spokes and/or rims, is that much to the credit.

OTOH - if we forget practical considerations, and keep everything equal except the number of spokes, then it's simple, less steel = less strength. However, it's moot because there's more than enough strength for most people to give up that 10% without consequences, so it's only an issue for very heavy riders and/or those who do loaded touring.
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