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Thank you for the response.
Your comment about John Howard twigged a memory. In 1971 a local cycling friend mentioned he was going to do a road race near Salinas, California. Asked if I could tag along. We were three, he and a friend did the race and I went along as spectator. In the pre-race preparations riders were making final adjustments to their machines and going through their warm-ups. Noticed a rider who looked particularly strong and mentioned it to my friend. He spoke to the third fellow saying "He thinks John Howard looks strong." We all broke into hearty laughter. Had heard the name but did not have a person to go with it.
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