I don't want to get into an insult battle with you...but you're crapping on bikes others like and there's no need for it. It's gotten old. Yes - we all know you don't like italian bikes. My rebuke was actually fairly mild compared to what I really think, and your likely motivations. You can enjoy your bikes without crapping on others that aren't your thing...and you are grossly mistaken if you think there's some inherent truth, or right, to your PREFERENCE.

There are also reasons that you may, or may not, understand for why your bike is worth less than some Italians...all of which you lumped together.

I advise being less lazy when it comes to grouping bikes of various countries together as well.