I have an android phone, and I'm familiar with navigation apps, and even have some that work offline and such as mentioned, but again, that wasn't my question or why I made this thread. I may end up posting a separate one regarding nav apps though. I know I'll be using my phone at times as needed, even while having paper maps, but I'd like to have paper maps, so as not to be using the phone as much, and needing to depend on it. Maybe with some time experience that may change, but right now, that's where I'm at.