A troll is someone who goes into a thread and picks an argument with each and every person who does not agree with their point of view, and just works continuously to create havic in the thread. A troll is someone who goes into a thread and continues to post comments that are not related to the OP. You have done both of these, over and over. I was attempting to get folks to stop feeding you, but I too have fallen into the trap of feeding the troll. I doubt that you will provide a serious answer to my comment. However, if you look at your behavior in this thread, you fit the definition of a troll. Your dislike of ebikes could be your own thread, but instead you are doing everything you can to damage someone else's thread, and have not made a single meaningful comment related to the OP.