Originally Posted by
November Dave
I'll be happy to stop saying it when you tell me what I should call it when the tubeless tire is punctured in the classic snakebite pattern.
Don't really get what you're saying with the "surprise, surprise" bit. This happened with a lot of force. There is no doubt a tubed tire would have pinch flatted in this instance too.
Whatever semantics aside, tubeless tires can pinch flat.
You understand my point exactly, that hitting something so hard the tire cuts has nothing to do with whether there is a butyl tube, a latex tube, or no tube inside it. It's like talking about the relative merits of gas or wood grills and then blaming the heat source for overcooking your steak; it's not to do with the heat source, but rather user error.
Again, decades of cycling tradition has defined pinch flatting as cutting the tube between the tire and rim. Of course you-- not me, btw-- could 'pinch flat so hard you cut the casing,' but to simply call that pinch flatting in a conversation where people are trying to understand the merits of various wheel systems
does nothing but obfuscate the issues.
What you should call cutting the tire is 'cutting the tire.'