Nitto Technomics look more horizontal with my 74deg HT frames than others like the ENE Gran Compe. Black Miyata and red Marinoni in this photo both have 74deg HT's, and the Technomic on the Miyata appears closer to horizontal compared to the Gran Compe ENE on the Marinoni in the middle. Marinoni has since received a Technomic, which does look horizontal now (no recent pics since that swap).