Originally Posted by
wphamilton
Wasn't it you who said a kickstand is "must have'?
No it wasn't, I never claimed, or suggested that they are a must have, or that not using one is a sign of ignorance, bad judgment, or a character flaw.
Originally Posted by
wphamilton
There is a pretty good case to be made that kickstands ARE inherently flawed in concept and application, even if they are useful in some rare circumstances for a few people.
There's a much better "argument" that they aren't inherently flawed, and actually are in widespread use, that's readily apparent when one looks beyond the rather focused perceptions of some performance orientated enthusiasts on BF.
As someone who finds them extremely useful, yet fully appreciates why others don't, the "arguments" against them seem elitist rather than objective.
Asking why one can't simply use a tree or wall is no different than asking why one can't figure out how to successfully use a kickstand.