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Old 03-30-17, 08:33 PM
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I'll take a different tack with this thread and mention the combo of lugs and gravel bike. Knowing that categories/definitions are different from person to person I venture that finding pre made lugs that match the design of a gravel bike without some modifications is a question I might bet on, as in against the chance.

Most first timers I've met don't have the skill set to modify lug angles by more then a degree or two, especially at the Bb shell where there's four sockets at play. Most don't have the skills or motivations to make their own lugs either.

But can a first timer make a very suitable frame, very much yes. And without the expensive jigs and tooling so many feel is a must. In fact the use of fancy tooling can get in the way of learning techniques which will last a lifetime. Andy.
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