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Old 04-09-17 | 04:16 PM
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Bikes: Trek Rail 7, Surly Karate Monkey, Vivente Patagonia, Giant Expedition, Raleigh Twenty, Brompton, Trek Rail7, Kalkhoff E-City

Originally Posted by FBinNY
Before you spend a penny, take a moment for a quick experiment.

Loosen the bar clamp and rotate the handlebar 180°, so the grip position is at the most forward position. Level it out so the hand angle is decent and ride it for a few days. If it feels better overall, you have proof that the frame is too short (seat to bar), and can shop other sizes accordingly.

These days, what with long seatposts, and sloping top tubes, the old BB to saddle and stand over guidelines aren't as important as handlebar height and seat to bar length.

Thanks FB

This got me to thinking and I had a look at my setup. At some point I remember putting on a MTB style stem that actually stretches me out some. If truth were told the handlebars would need to come back 2 to 3 cms and 4cms upward to feel right. I'm at the end of that quill's upward movement.

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