Does "on your left" mean "move out of my way" instead?
Originally Posted by
Kindaslow
Any chance that we never see eye to eye on this based on the group we identify with....
I am not training and not really in a hurry, so the reactions don't bother me, and in turn my "on your left" might sound nicer than some folks.
But, for people out training and in groups, they are hoping not to lose pace, nor mess up the group dynamics.So, it could be that their "on your left" sounds like a command, in place of a notification, or request. Then, the people are startled or angry and react poorly. Plus, if things don't go well, the cyclist then gets frustrated, and the negativity continues.
Originally Posted by
Jim from Boston
From a recently closed thread, I posted:
Originally Posted by badger1
By the way, all the Cat 6 racers round here love that little phrase ["
on your left"]. Other current favourites:"
Coming through" and "
Hold your line."
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
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When I’m passing anyone in any situation, including a fellow cyclist on the road, I don’t yell ”On your left”; at most I will say “Coming up” when nearby, but most importantly will pass with a wide berth.
I like “coming up”…non-committal (as opposed to “on your left”) but not so antagonistic as “coming through.”
Frankly I would be astounded at the arrogance of cyclists training on a MUP, unless it was totally clear.
Originally Posted by
FBinNY
I look at MUPs as pedestrian walks with bicycles allowed, and don't expect pedestrians to defer to me. They're walking, and as the passing vehicle, it's my job to get around them safely
Originally Posted by
canklecat
If we ride often enough on MUPs we've all seen...wannabe racers riding too fast for conditions, sometimes two abreast,sometimes in mini-pelotons and not giving any consideration to other users-- slower cyclists, old folks walking with canes or walkers, families withstrollers and toddlers and dogs on 50 yard retractable non-leashes (the dogs too), etc.
That's life on the multi-use path. Always been that way. Always will be.It's just the nature of the thing…
Jerks are gonna jerk…
Originally Posted by
Jim from Boston
…My own thought is that
a MUP is not so much a commuter route, or training venue, but a pastoral park,where people can enjoy themselves without too many worries, and needn’t be always vigilant, as is a cyclist on the Road.
A few years ago I went on a walking tour of the Boston’s Emerald Necklace park system designed by the great 19th century landscape architect Frederic Law Olmsted with the concept of a
Promenade in mind. According to the Park Ranger, it was planned “
to take a leisurely walk, ride, or drive in public, especially to meet or be seen by others” (OxfordDictionary).
The strollers would be dressed in their best Sunday clothes, and running and horses (and ? bicycles) would be discouraged.
Cyclists in training should be on the Roads where they are accepted.
Originally Posted by
Equinox
…Pace lines cause insignificant delays and never place driver's lives at risk in those situations ….
In so called cycling meccas, I find there is greater cooperation between drivers and cyclists. The local drivers generally know when the bikes are around and where they're going, and the bikes are on the narrow roads to avoid traffic as much as possible while enjoying a legally protected activity. [
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Last edited by Jim from Boston; 04-09-17 at 06:23 PM.