Originally Posted by Dan333SP

If I may be serious for a moment...

I wish people on this forum could try a bunch of different options and stick with the one that works best for them (in regards to saddles/clothing, but also applies to bikes, fit, tires, wheels, etc).

Once they've picked the one that works best, they should probably come to terms with the fact that what works for them does not necessarily work for others, and it's better to assume that someone with a different solution has come to that determination after their own process of research and trial/error.

It's annoying to hear people call riders in spandex with chamois "freds" that bought the marketing hype and/or are sheeple. I've ridden in regular shorts on padded saddles and it doesn't work for me. A thin, hard saddle plus nice bibs with chamois does. That should be all the justification I need to wear "kit". It's not about buying the hype and trying to appear a certain way, it's about using what is best for my purposes.