Originally Posted by Leukybear

Today I: preordered my '18 subaru STI

Thanks to the subaru forums and their insiders, I was done in under 30 minutes for under sticker with extra goodies thrown in.

The look of despair on their faces when I offered their exact dealer invoice amount to start off negotiations was priceless.
It definitely hurts the dealer's margin when you're an educated buyer with the exact same information they have.