Those are both Blackburn bags. The frame bag I really like, the HB bag I'm so so about. It works fine but is rather overbuilt for what it does.
I would suggest looking very hard at the seat post bag if you are considering. I've looked and found it's not supported enough to prevent side to side wiggle when loaded in a meaningful way.
Last edited by Happy Feet; 05-06-17 at 10:41 PM.